Black Sabbath

[Szkieletor]

http://www.cgm.pl/aktualnosci,21470,bla ... ,news.html

[yankes]

"Dear SABBATH fans and fellow musicians,

"I sincerely regret to inform you that after a final effort to participate in the upcoming SABBATH shows, a failure to agree has continued. At this time I have to inform you that I won't be playing with BLACK SABBATH at the Birmingham gig dated May 19th, 2012, nor will I be playing at [U.K.'s] Download [festival] on June 10th, 2012. Further, I will not be playing at Lollapalooza [festival] on August 3, 2012.

"It is with a very sad heart that I bring you this news. I am sincerely passionate in my desire to play with the band, and I'm very, very sorry that it's fallen to this. This statement is even more painstaking to write, as I was particularly excited to play alongside Tony Iommi after the recent treatments he underwent. I wanted that to become a reality.

"To express my thoughts about you, the SABBATH fans, I'm going to speak to you all through an experience my brother James had recently. My brother Jimmy lives in the U.K. When speaking with him a couple of days ago, he told me that an acquaintance had stopped him on the street and confronted him, 'Is your brother playing Birmingham? What's going on? I waited in line with my son and paid X amount for the concert tickets.'

"The man's son is a young drummer. He's going to see SABBATH, and he wants to see Bill Ward play drums.

"Upon hearing this news, I felt horrible. I couldn't help feeling some resentment towards the failure to reach an agreement, the failure to remember where we came from, the failure to be as brothers, as we once were.

"To be clear, I'm not blaming the other guys or finding any faults with them. I would think it can't be easy for them either, but this situation is just really sad. It's sad that it's come to this. 'This' will surely leave a mark and be unwelcome to the memory. Hopefully 'this' will heal and pass in time.

"My heart sank when Jimmy told me about this young boy. I know this boy is going to be disappointed, and I don't know how to amend it, other than to put my arms around the boy and tell him I love him.

"SABBATH fans have a voice and a face. To me you're human, you have families and despair. You have ferocity and emotions and graciousness, and at this moment, as far as I'm concerned, you are also that young boy in England. I don't know how to amend my part in these failings other than to put my arms around you and say I love you and let you know I'm very, very sorry.

"Throughout this process, which began over a year ago, I have had to stand up for myself time and time again. I have had to stand up for myself and in doing so realize my actions indirectly, although unintentionally, are upsetting and hurting a lot of you. I know in my heart I couldn't have done these concerts by agreeing the terms suggested. I made a solemn vow after the last European and Ozzfest concerts that I would never again enter into what was, in my opinion, a totally unsatisfactory contract. I have to stand for something, and as painful as it is, I'm doing it.

"Earlier in April 2012, I'd been asked to participate 'minimally' in the Download festival. I believe I'd been offered no more than three songs to play while another drummer presumably played the rest of the show with BLACK SABBATH. I was not willing to participate in that offer. I was not prepared to watch another drummer play a SABBATH set, while I was to play only three songs.

"I found out about the Birmingham gig on Monday, April 30 through the Internet ad. I was taken aback somewhat by the date, and the fact it was Birmingham. Knowing the 'signable' contract negotiations were at best in shreds, I was upset by the idea that the band was going to play Birmingham and play it assumedly without me. I had no prior knowledge of the date and location, and I felt totally excluded. We contacted the representative for BLACK SABBATH to see if something could be worked out. In the meantime, my drum crew and I, along with our U.S. endorsers, finished all the necessary planning for a swift departure to the U.K. There wasn't a whole lot to complete; we'd all been on standby more or less since mid-January 2012. The remaining work in the U.K. was confirmed done by our European and U.K. endorsers and we were good to go by Friday, May 4 2012. There were two stress points: firstly, getting an agreement in place, and secondly, getting to England in a timely manner. Jetlag time was taken into account as well as drum practice, a drum practice room in the heart of Birmingham, accommodation, and travel arrangements were all in place to meet with any band rehearsals that may have transpired before the Birmingham show. So far everything that had been arranged was on my dime, but we didn't move ahead without a realistic confirmation.

"Communications between the representative and my lawyer continued through the weekend of May 5, finalizing on Wednesday, May 9. The offer we received on May 9 was, 'Come to the U.K., play for free and see how the first show goes.' I was tempted. Playing for free would not have been a problem for me, but 'seeing how the first show goes' left an element of risk which could have affected Download. My ideal thought was to play in full the Birmingham show, in full Download, and in full Lollapalooza.

"I had notified the representative that May 10 was my cutoff day in order to have good lead-in time for England. On the night of May 9, I asked for a brief letter to be sent to the representative asking to find out if we were at an end. On the morning of Thursday, May 10, I received a reply in the affirmative. After consulting with my advisors and crew, a decision was made to let go and stop.

"I can't prioritize the SABBATH fans making one show more important than the other. I can't do that. All of you are important. It's all the gigs or none at all. I can't come to Birmingham and 'see what happens' knowing there is a risk of not being able to play Download or Lollapalooza. Again, for me, it's all or nothing. I had to say 'no' to Birmingham on the principle of wanting to play all the shows.

"Saying no to Birmingham is very difficult for me. My family grew up in Birmingham. BLACK SABBATH grew up in Birmingham. It's still my hometown and I resent having to arrive at such a difficult choice.

"Although the statement was made that 'the door is always open' for me, as explained above, walking through that door is not always as easy as it sounds. There are many complicated issues and unseen and unspoken agendas on hand. I can assure you, my criteria for a 'signable' contract is based in mindful principles, respectability, and acknowledgement of my history within the band.

"I hold no malice or resentment towards the other band members. I love them; I'm tolerant of them; I'm frustrated with them, as they may be with me. My fight has never been with them. I'll love them forever. In my opinion, nobody wins this time; the band doesn't win; the fans for an original lineup don't win. Nobody wins, nobody. Even the ones who thought they did.

"I didn't want to make this decision, but I have to be honest and transparent. This is the statement I didn't want to write; it's the last thing I wanted to do. But, I have written it, and now it can go into the universe.

"Since spring of 2011, I've waited patiently and hopefully for a signable contract, you know the rest. I stand for the boy in the U.K., for the coming drum student, for all the drummers, who write their parts out and get stiffed on the publishing, I stand with the SABBATH fans chanting 'Bill Ward' and asking 'why?' and I stand with Tony and Geezer and Ozzy.

"On a final note, even though I'm at an end with the upcoming announced concerts, I will remain with an open mind and a position of willingness to negotiate 'signable' terms with SABBATH's representatives in the future.

"Stay strong. Stay safe.

"With all my heart and strength, I love you, Bill Ward.

"Following on a separate page is a thank you message to some very extraordinary people."

[WICKER MAN]

Straszny kał z tym Wardem, ale w sumie było to do przewidzenia... Cóż, tak czy siak cieszę się na sobotni koncert i mam tylko nadzieję, że za perkusją nie usiądzie Tommy Clufetos z solowego zespołu Ozzy'ego. Optymalny byłby Vinny Appice, ale on zajęty jest teraz swoim nowym zespołem, Kill Devil Hill...

[kam]

Info z Facebooka Black Sabbath. Stare dziadki, a się zachowują jak w przedszkolu.
Dobrze, że Iommy zdrowieje.

We have decided not to make any detailed comment on Bill's latest statement. There are two sides to every story. We have been working hard at rehearsals making excellent progress after Tony's treatments and we have engaged a substitute drummer for the forthcoming shows. See you at Download.

[MrCrowley]

Wiadomo już, że Bill nie bierze udziału w całej zabawie. Ale męczy mnie jeden szczegół... Bill był współautorem Scary Dreams, napisał podobno tekst i linie perkusyjną. Nurtuje mnie jak postąpi zespół z tym utworem, czy wydany będzie na nowym albumie, czy pojawią się tam kawałki skomponowane w ostatnich miesiącach...
Podszedł mi ten utwór, uczciwie mówiąc liczyłem na jego obecność na albumie. Nawet obstawiłem, że taki będzie jego tytuł a patrząc na poczynania względem Billa, pojawiają się pewne obawy... ;o

[DeJMIeN Wielki]

Ale masz problemy...

Tak na poważnie, to jestem raczej pewien, że pojawi się wyłącznie to co skomponowali w ostatnich miesiącach. Zresztą co by na niego nie trafiło, dla mnie to i tak będzie oszustwo a nie album zreaktywowanego BS ( jak widac też mam problemy )

[Pablo1919]

Sabbath ma aż 15 piosenek na nowy album!
http://www.nme.com/news/black-sabbath/64120

[Kenobi]

Kupiłem sobie autobiografię Ozzyego, "Ja, Ozzy".
Jestem na 150 stronie, po prostu brak słów na tą książkę, spotkanie z Plant'em, to ich "szczęście" i wogóle... Książka niesamowita

[DeJMIeN Wielki]

3 dni temu skończyłem czytać 3 raz i chyba znowu zacznę

[Kenobi]

Jednak mimo wszystko, warto było dać moim zdaniem te 69 zyla. Mimo że moim ulubionym zespołem jest AC/DC i 1 raz kupiłem biografię właśnie o AC/DC to nigdy się nie uśmiałem tak jak przy Ozzym XD

[Mr. M]

Biografia Ozzy'ego?

Chyba do końca życia będę miał uśmiech na twarzy, jak ktokolwiek o niej wspomni

[MrCrowley]

Mhm, dobra jest.

Świetnie, że ktoś poruszył wątek książkowy. Biografię Osbourne'a znam już dobrze, także czytałem kilkakrotnie. Planuję sobie sprawić Iron Man'a. Czy ktoś miał do czynienia z autobiografią Tony'ego Iommiego i jest w stanie mi coś o niej powiedzieć?
Z zagranicznych forów wynika, że warto. Co Wy o tym powiecie?

[DeJMIeN Wielki]

Jako że jestem leniwy czekam na polską premierę

[Mike Stanley]

też myślałem nad zakupieniem jej na amazonie. znam już stronę Ozzy'ego w 10 jego biografiach(najlepsza jest oczywiście ja, Ozzy - uwielbiam tą książkę, nie wiadomo ile jej napisał samemu a ile z pomocą, ale efekt jest zajebisty ) więc warto by w sumie poznać stronę Tony'ego..

[MrCrowley]

Sprzedam gitarę i kupuję tą książkę. Około za miesiąc zacznę lekturę, chętnie zamieszczę recenzję, choć pewnie do tego czasu i Ty się za nią weźmiesz

[yankes]

Black Sabbath have announced their fist Australian tour dates since 1974.

Following on from a mysterious video posted by tour promoters Live Nation this afternoon darkness has officially descended, with original band members Ozzy Osbourne, bassist Geezer Butler and guitarist Tony Iommi confirming that Sabbath will be in the country in April 2013.

The overlords of metal will play the Entertainment Centre in Brisbane on April 25, Allphones Arena in Sydney on April 27, Rod Laver Arena in Melbourn on May 1 and Perth Arena in Perth on May 4.

After years of rumours, Black Sabbath officially reformed late last year with a promise to embark on a worldwide tour and release the first new album by the original lineup in 33 years. However, by February the reunion had disintegrated with drummer Bill Ward issuing a statement declaring that he had been given an “unsignable” contract and was in a “holding pattern” until he is given a deal that “recognises and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago”.

The band’s original members were joined by drummer Tommy Clufetos (Ozzy Osbourne, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper) and Adam Wakeman (Ozzy Osbourne, Victoria Beckham, Atomic Kitten) for shows at Download Festival and the O2 Academy in England, as well as Lollapalooza in Chicago. In the lead up to the three Sabbath shows, Osbourne also played a 17-date tour billed as “Ozzy & Friends”, with guests including Slash and Zakk Wylde.

Black Sabbath are currently in the studio recording a new album, due for release early next year, with producer Rick Rubin.

Need to scratch up on your Sabbath? Check out FL’s guide to the op 10 essential Black Sabbath songs.

General tickets go on sale midday Thursday, November 8 and an exclusive presale will be available to Live Nation members from 9am Friday, November 2 until 5pm Monday.

Black Sabbath Australian tour dates
Thursday, April 25 – Entertainment Centre, Brisbane
Saturday, April 27 – Allphones Arena, Sydney
Wednesday, May 1 – Rod Laver, Melbourne
Saturday, May 4 – Perth Arena, Perth

[Slaug]

Nowa płyta w kwietniu

[yankes]

Jest tytuł, data premiery i perkusista


http://rockville.pl/black-sabbath-13/

[kam]

Nie wiem czy było. Nowa płyta Black Sabbath w czerwcu. Ja się nie spodziewam zbyt wiele po tym albumie... Wolę się miło zaskoczyć.


http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/black ... -album-13/

[Shedao Shai]

Uoooa, muszę przyznać że perkmana wybrali przedniego!!